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Older Games?

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 12:25 am
by 3DOKid
Are we getting any more releases from these guys anyone know?

Re: Older Games?

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:20 am
by T2KFreeker
3DOKid wrote:Are we getting any more releases from these guys anyone know?
I sent them a few e-mails asking this as well and haven't heard anything at all back from them. They did judt release Frog Feast for the Jaguar CD though.

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:49 am
by Trev
We need Frog Feast for the 3DO! Every other console seems to be getting a version, why not us?

T2K, you said something about Good deal games having some 3DO games in limbo. Any news now that encryption has been cracked?

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 7:06 am
by cdoty
Trev wrote:We need Frog Feast for the 3DO! Every other console seems to be getting a version, why not us?
There's two BIG reasons:

1) 3DO Testing or Dev. stations are very hard to come by, unless your willing to pay $300 for one. Freedo can be used for 90% of the development, but that doesn't ensure it will work correctly on a real system.

2) And, the 3DO encryption technology, from mnemonic (however the f* you spell it), is very tightly controlled. And, can't be used to develop a title.

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:51 am
by 3DOKid
...But obviously the encryption is reverse engineered from the Game Guru boot loader. I guessed it worked like the swap-dsic thing on the old Playstation. (I might have guess wrong) Do you remember? You would insert an original PS1 game, let it start, hold down the lid button with a bluetac and then pop in the gold disc PS1 game. From what I saw of Powerslide, something similiar was going on. The game was the game loading with the Game Guru boot screen, then the actual game, in the case Powerslide, was loading. I'm sure some clever folks could figure out what's going on.

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:02 am
by cdoty
3DOKid wrote:...But obviously the encryption is reverse engineered from the Game Guru boot loader. I guessed it worked like the swap-dsic thing on the old Playstation. (I might have guess wrong) Do you remember? You would insert an original PS1 game, let it start, hold down the lid button with a bluetac and then pop in the gold disc PS1 game. From what I saw of Powerslide, something similiar was going on. The game was the game loading with the Game Guru boot screen, then the actual game, in the case Powerslide, was loading. I'm sure some clever folks could figure out what's going on.
Yeah, I have one of the PS1 disks.

I'm not sure if the encryption has anything to do with the Game Guru, or not. It could've only contained the launch screen from the disk.

Game Guru only affects save ram, it doesn't allow you to insert a disk and play a game. That was my initial thought also. Even the advanced menu offers no cd booting options.

The only problem with using Game Guru, is that any changes to the data would cause the encryption to fail. Although, from some simple tests, the 3DO appears to verify random areas of the CD each time (similar to the Jaguar CD). So, it would seem feasible to override one of the system utilities and expect it to boot up most of the time.

And, all of the testing can be done in Freedo, since it's a software based encryption system.

Re: Older Games?

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:31 am
by Mobius
3DOKid wrote:Are we getting any more releases from these guys anyone know?
Yes.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:13 pm
by 3DOKid
"Yes" you know? or "Yes" I agree we should ask someone if the older games guys are getting anything else for us?

And if "yes" you know - then what is it please. Pretty please. Please?

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:12 am
by Mobius
3DOKid wrote:"Yes" you know? or "Yes" I agree we should ask someone if the older games guys are getting anything else for us?

And if "yes" you know - then what is it please. Pretty please. Please?
:wink:

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:38 am
by pitsunami
Mobius wrote: :wink:
What is this supposed to mean? :( :(

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:48 am
by bonefish
Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 hahahaha

I wish...

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:44 am
by BryWI
plumbers dont wear ties 2