Icebreaker 2

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Do you plan on buying Icebreaker 2?

Yes
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No
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Post by Trev » Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:07 am

I have already e-mailed Oldergames. They said they would e-mail me when the game is ready for release. I am excited, and hope that this is the first of many new releases for the 3DO! :D

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Post by Lemmi » Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:41 am

probably not so i voted no

the only homebrew/new games for a long dead system i ever bought was Beef Drop for the Atari 7800, and Beggar Prince for the Genesis

if it wasnt released during the time the 3DO was still alive i probably wont buy it, unless its the Star Trek NG or NHL 96 games that they had advertised in magazines (i gots the proof)
plus i didnt care for Icebreaker to begin with
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Post by 3DOKid » Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:12 am

I'm kind of interested in this. I remember reading that it would only work on his 3DO dev system and he would be happy to let others play, as long as they are happy popping round to his house.

I guess things have moved on - which is great news.

Do you have a link?

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Post by Trev » Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:49 pm

I just read about it at http://www.Oldergames.com. It is on the main page. I think all of the forum members should support this. Even if this particualr title isn't that exciting (I wasn't a huge fan of the original Icebreaker myself) it can open the door for other new or unfinished 3DO projects, much like gooddealgames has done with cd-i.

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Post by 3DOKid » Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:13 am

Trev wrote:I just read about it at http://www.Oldergames.com. It is on the main page. I think all of the forum members should support this. Even if this particualr title isn't that exciting (I wasn't a huge fan of the original Icebreaker myself) it can open the door for other new or unfinished 3DO projects, much like gooddealgames has done with cd-i.
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Post by Devin » Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:33 am

I can't really vote seeing as I'll probably sweet talk oldergames into giving me a free copy! :wink:

Played the game a couple of years ago and it's really nice. Of course the important thing would be the encryption breaking. I'm not sure what the status is on this at the moment but they had a man on top of the job by all accounts. Who knows, this could pave the way to more unencrypted releases!

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Post by zenkov » Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:02 am

No :-) But for free copy, I can write article about the game 8)

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Post by BryWI » Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:50 pm

Encryption has been known for quite a while. Thats why we can extract the contents of the CD with a couple programs that are out there on the net. But oldergames got into contact with someone that took a copy of the dev version and was able to encrypt it into something that would boot on a 3do. Once the Freedo team releases their sdk for 3do, anyone will be able to do this. But anyways, last I heard, Oldergames was supposed to start working on selling I2 the start of this year. Thats what they told me in an Email.

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Post by 3DOKid » Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:52 pm

zenkov wrote:No :-) But for free copy, I can write article about the game 8)

...After what I wrote about Ice Breaker on my blog, I'm probably black listed. I also probably made it to the top of the list to be shot on sight when the IceBreaker 2 is released...

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Post by 3DOKid » Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:54 pm

BryWI wrote:Encryption has been known for quite a while. Thats why we can extract the contents of the CD with a couple programs that are out there on the net. But oldergames got into contact with someone that took a copy of the dev version and was able to encrypt it into something that would boot on a 3do. Once the Freedo team releases their sdk for 3do, anyone will be able to do this. But anyways, last I heard, Oldergames was supposed to start working on selling I2 the start of this year. Thats what they told me in an Email.
As I understand it's not Encryption as such - its more a hashing algorithm. I mean - breaking Encryption would be a feat in itself right?

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Post by BryWI » Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:56 pm

Im not sure what it is, but i know it's broken :) Also, even if it was encyrption, those can be broken too. And yes, it is a feat. A feat I could not tackle. lol.

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Post by zenkov » Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:32 am

3DOKid wrote:...After what I wrote about Ice Breaker on my blog, I'm probably black listed.
I consider the library of games for 3DO, one of the poorest game library in the world... Good-bye the free disk of Ice Breaker 2 :lol:

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Post by 3DOKid » Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:32 am

zenkov wrote:
3DOKid wrote:...After what I wrote about Ice Breaker on my blog, I'm probably black listed.
I consider the library of games for 3DO, one of the poorest game library in the world... Good-bye the free disk of Ice Breaker 2 :lol:

...Not seen the Atari Jaguar library - no?

3DO was positively blessed :)

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Post by Trev » Sun Feb 04, 2007 7:34 pm

I consider the library of games for 3DO, one of the poorest game library in the world...
Are you serious? :o You should consider yourself quite fortunate if this is the worst you've seen. You have been spared much grief.

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Post by Lemmi » Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:12 pm

Trev wrote:
I consider the library of games for 3DO, one of the poorest game library in the world...
Are you serious? :o You should consider yourself quite fortunate if this is the worst you've seen. You have been spared much grief.
heh i think the CD-i has worse games then the 3DO :lol:
dont get me started on the Arcade classics, its probably the worst conversion ever of those games :D
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Post by Trev » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:01 am

Or how about the Golden Oldies titles? :x From the same team that made the garbage shooting game 'Alien Gate. Anyway, I still love my cd-i, but yeah, it has a much weaker library than 3DO

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Post by Devin » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:02 am

Lemmi wrote:I think the CD-i has worse games then the 3DO :lol:
dont get me started on the Arcade classics, its probably the worst conversion ever of those games :D
Really? I reckon the CD-i conversion of Arcade Classics is rather pucker [read good!]. I've spent alot of time investigating these conversions by ADS and in comparison they beat every other format of the CD-i era hands down. The CD-i conversion of Ms Pac-man even includes additional mazes! Some of my research is available on-line over at the Arcade Classics Game Page if your interested.

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Post by Lemmi » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:45 am

Devin wrote:
Lemmi wrote:I think the CD-i has worse games then the 3DO :lol:
dont get me started on the Arcade classics, its probably the worst conversion ever of those games :D
Really? I reckon the CD-i conversion of Arcade Classics is rather pucker [read good!]. I've spent alot of time investigating these conversions by ADS and in comparison they beat every other format of the CD-i era hands down. The CD-i conversion of Ms Pac-man even includes additional mazes! Some of my research is available on-line over at the Arcade Classics Game Page if your interested.
i didnt care for the scrolling Ms pacman screen, the only game i played that did that was on the atari 2600 and it was called Jr. pacman, additional mazes doesnt do anything for me really

and i think Galaga was only half screen and WAY too fast, i didnt see any screenshots of it on the page you linked to, Galaxian was pretty good tho but over all i was let down after playing these games and paying to much for it didnt help either
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Post by zenkov » Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:20 am

3DOKid wrote: ...Not seen the Atari Jaguar library - no?
hehe, cognition comes through comparison :lol:

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Post by 3DOKid » Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:12 am

Conclusion? 3DO is better than the Jaguar AND the CDi. No major supprise for me - but, just so we are all on the same page, I thought I'd highlight the point. :)

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Post by zenkov » Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:45 pm

I do not have Atari Jaguar, CD-i and... Apple Pippin, but I believe to you :roll:

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Nintendo, and Nintendo, and Nintendo, and... :lol:
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Sega Genesis and Sega Mega Drive II :)
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Sega Saturn and another Sega Saturn
Sony PlayStation

Now I prefer only portable devices.

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I do not know anyone who owns an Apple Pippin. Information on that system is very scarce ... almost as scarce as M2 info.

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Post by T2KFreeker » Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:54 am

Damn, I got all excited about this as I was a fan of Ice Breaker! What's with pimping a release that won't happen? Still having the encryption issues with the system, I see! Why oh why did Trip Hawkins not release the encryption to public domain for the 3DO? It is sad indeed.
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Post by Trev » Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:19 pm

Last I heard, Oldergames said it was still slated for release. Why, did something change in the past month or so? I hope not.

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Post by T2KFreeker » Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:52 pm

Trev wrote:Last I heard, Oldergames said it was still slated for release. Why, did something change in the past month or so? I hope not.
Well, I read what they had written on their site, and unless I missed something, like 3DO Kid said, it can only be played on Developmental 3DO systems. What did I miss? If this game releases, I am all over it as I was a fan of Ice Breaker, so that would be damn cool for this game to see the light of day.
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Post by 3DOKid » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:06 am

T2KFreeker wrote:Damn, I got all excited about this as I was a fan of Ice Breaker! What's with pimping a release that won't happen? Still having the encryption issues with the system, I see! Why oh why did Trip Hawkins not release the encryption to public domain for the 3DO? It is sad indeed.
I think old Trip wasn't in a position to hand out the Encryption. When he sold 3DO technology to matsushita for the princely sum of $100,000,000 I think every last drop of intellectucal property vanished inside. Including the encryption. However, the algorithum has been broken from what i understand.

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Post by Trev » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:47 am

I'll have to double check on Icebreaker 2, cause that is not what Oldergames said in their e-mail reply to me... :?

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Post by T2KFreeker » Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:38 am

3DOKid wrote:
T2KFreeker wrote:Damn, I got all excited about this as I was a fan of Ice Breaker! What's with pimping a release that won't happen? Still having the encryption issues with the system, I see! Why oh why did Trip Hawkins not release the encryption to public domain for the 3DO? It is sad indeed.
I think old Trip wasn't in a position to hand out the Encryption. When he sold 3DO technology to matsushita for the princely sum of $100,000,000 I think every last drop of intellectucal property vanished inside. Including the encryption. However, the algorithum has been broken from what i understand.
Damn Matsushita! They so irritated me with the M2 as I had been waiting forever for that thing! I know I am not the only one, but still I say; DAMN!
This is a stick up! Put all of your 3DO games in the bag and nobody gets hurt!

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Post by Trev » Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:56 am

Amen to that :!:

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Post by T2KFreeker » Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:00 am

Trev wrote:Amen to that :!:
Yeah, it just makes me mad knowing that all they did was drop the chip set into DVD players, what a waste man! Totally crap!
This is a stick up! Put all of your 3DO games in the bag and nobody gets hurt!

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