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Please post you unreleased games, youtube vids, etc., in here!

Barkley Shut Up And Jam (Prototype)
Black Ice / White Noise (rev.18 Prototype)
Breakout2000 (Prototype)
Cybermorph (Early Prototype)
Defender 2000 (Prototype)
Phase Zero (Prototype)
Rayman (Early Prototype)
Tiny Toons Plucky Duck (unreleased tech demo)
Ultra VorteX (Prototype)

I have an above average collection amongst Jaguar users.

doctorclu wrote:I have an above average collection amongst Jaguar users.

We will be requiring pictures (We like to watch!)

The KID said this was the topless photos thread, WTF?

Yeah I forgot to delete all those posts. Gone now... I should have just split them to a new topic and deleted the whole thing, it would have been faster than going one-by-one.

Can I create a topless photo thread?

Topless eh? How about this for topless?

doctorclu wrote:Topless eh? How about this for topless?

HOT!

doctorclu wrote:Topless eh? How about this for topless?

CLU HOW DARE YOU! THIS IS A FAMILY SITE!!!


You know I'm gonna have to delete all these right?

Just move it to a topless thread!

but I already deleted all those other posts!

I suppose shots of the voice modem prototype and the VR headsets would be pretty cool.

We had a Jag VR setup at our last retro computer museum event.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NCQJrd-4rk

Quagmire wrote:We had a Jag VR setup at our last retro computer museum event.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NCQJrd-4rk

Man I can't believe thats what I actually sound like!! The guy querying the fact that I said its the only one is an idiot! There is only one Hi-def VR prototype & thats the one I have. Yes there are at least 2 others out there, but the screen resolution in the helmet is lower than mine!!

I was always desperately excited by the idea of Virtual Reality and was very keen on getting the Jag version. It seemed, then as now to me, that this was likely to be the feature but...

Anyway, I have some questions:

Does it induce head aches?
How heavy is it?
On a scale of 0 to 10 (10 being ace of aces) how good is it? Really?
Are there any in-lens videos out there of it running?

ANyone else?

My question is... is it 3D in the sense that you get full depth like if you were playing Wolfenstien the full distance of the wall could be "seen" or is the 3D in a tier system where objects are flat but appear at different distances.

Sorry I fell asleep on the couch last night and still can't wake up fully.

In-lens videos would be great.
But no. No one does that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLGQJOqV16Y


exception:

Leonar3DO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2lNfSPq ... re=related
http://www.leonar3do.com/index.php?opti ... =4&lang=en

750,- EUROs

Anyone around here get the Aircars KA version? Cool little version of the game and much more satisfying. Tastes Great and Less Filling!

Not sure if this counts and I don't have it yet or know when and or if I will but I paid RGC for a copy of their another world. Got an email a month or so ago saying they had experienced cartidge label issues or something and it had been delayed. As yet have not received any reply to my query as to a revised likely done by date. Was so wary ordering and paying for something with such sketchy details and just praying I get some good news soon. But if I do get it it will be pretty rare and cool to have

It's a rare jag. I apologize in advance if nobody gets the Team Fortress 2 reference.

CJZEPP wrote:I apologize in advance if nobody gets the Team Fortress 2 reference...

And quite rightly, so you should!

T2KFreeker wrote:Anyone around here get the Aircars KA version? Cool little version of the game and much more satisfying. Tastes Great and Less Filling!

Got it! I liked the originally released Aircars, even though the graphics were sub par, but while playing it, I never did understand why they didn't at least make the explosions better instead of just building collapsing. KA version answered these questions as it turns out the original ICD version and B&C reprint are both technically BETAS. KA is the real finished deal and it shows, the explosions are much better, A.I. is slightly smarter, landscapes are better (in later levels) and I also like the daylight levels as the others were always "night time" looking. Tastes great! Less filling!

Yeah, I don't recall when I got this but it definitely looks better than the original Aircars.

There are several jag games that actually got betas released by Atari as supposed finished projects, as near the end they couldn't pay developers so many refused to send final builds, so Atari, in all their "wisdom," started releasing betas to cash in at the last moment. Fight for Life is another big one that is really a Beta, though the final build has not been found yet. A real shame, as I like it too, even though lots of people think it sucks, and it's another title that generally give the Jag a bad name. The final build probably would have been much better and I still hope it will be found one day.

Gunstar wrote:There are several jag games that actually got betas released by Atari as supposed finished projects, as near the end they couldn't pay developers so many refused to send final builds, so Atari, in all their "wisdom," started releasing betas to cash in at the last moment.

Is there a definitive list of games where this is the case? It'd be helpful for me in my buying decisions, especially in cases when there's a ROM and/or aftermarket release that's superior to the released version.

No list, just knowledge from years of forums and hearing from some former developers. There are only three official releases that were put out that are really betas, Fight for life and World Tour Racing and Zero 5 are titles that had final builds that never got released and betas were substituted, but the final builds of those have never been found or released yet. Aircars is the only one were the final build was released in limited quantities as KA Aircars. In the case of WTR, the developer had a new and faster game "engine" that they never had a chance to implement, so it could have been a better game, but is really finished, just not as good as it might have been, given more time (it's still good enough, IMHO-still blows away the 3DO's F1 racer, that it's my second favorite racer of all time behind 3DO NFS).

Then there are some unpublished titles, like Soulstar that have been floating around in an unfinished or corrupted state. Songbird also published several titles that were either finished by him, and released, like Total Carnage, and then he also released Skyhammer that was a late beta and really a finished game, but still has bugs because they never got through with beta testing to find and repair them, but there's nothing more finished out there than what has been published.

Then there are a few Atari titles that seem like unfinished/unpolished titles that were published, but no word of better versions, Atari just rushed them out the door. I can't think of them right now. I think Checkered Flag was one that got rushed before they could really make it shine.

But, in the case of World Tour Racing, Zero 5 and Skyhammer, don't let the fact that they are late betas keep you from buying them, they are all great games that actually are an asset to the Jaguar, and are finished for all intents and purposes, just not as good as they might have been, but still better than 50% of the Jags "finished" games that just suck or are average.

Virtual VCS as much as I would like to see this on Jag, it's not going happen because Carl Forhan doesn't have the know how to it up to speed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBE82evSVE4

Gunstar wrote:No list, just knowledge from years of forums and hearing from some former developers. There are only three official releases that were put out that are really betas, Fight for life and World Tour Racing and Zero 5 are titles that had final builds that never got released and betas were substituted, but the final builds of those have never been found or released yet. Aircars is the only one were the final build was released in limited quantities as KA Aircars. In the case of WTR, the developer had a new and faster game "engine" that they never had a chance to implement, so it could have been a better game, but is really finished, just not as good as it might have been, given more time (it's still good enough, IMHO-still blows away the 3DO's F1 racer, that it's my second favorite racer of all time behind 3DO NFS).

I thought World Tour Racing and Zero 5 were both third party games that came out after the Jaguar was discontinued?

Martin III wrote:

Gunstar wrote:No list, just knowledge from years of forums and hearing from some former developers. There are only three official releases that were put out that are really betas, Fight for life and World Tour Racing and Zero 5 are titles that had final builds that never got released and betas were substituted, but the final builds of those have never been found or released yet. Aircars is the only one were the final build was released in limited quantities as KA Aircars. In the case of WTR, the developer had a new and faster game "engine" that they never had a chance to implement, so it could have been a better game, but is really finished, just not as good as it might have been, given more time (it's still good enough, IMHO-still blows away the 3DO's F1 racer, that it's my second favorite racer of all time behind 3DO NFS).

I thought World Tour Racing and Zero 5 were both third party games that came out after the Jaguar was discontinued?

They were games in development under Atari's control (third party developers hired by Atari to do them), then they were released through Telegames publishing, but were licensed for publication through Atari/JTS (after the reverse merger at the end of Atari Corp.). Part of the legalities of Atari's reverse merger into JTS Corp. were that they had to remain a viable company with a viable product for a year before JTS could drop it all. So, to get around the issue, Atari/JTS officially licensed the games to Telegames for publication to fulfill these legal requirements, which is why on the back of the Telegames releases that were done after Atari became JTS, it still has the Atari name, Fuji, and copyrights. They actually are, technically, OFFICIAL Atari releases with Telegames as a "partner!"

Atari/JTS also kept the 'Go Atari' mail order division running at the same time for selling off the stock of Jaguar merchandise, hence legally being a viable company for the needed amount of time. Telegames releases were sold through GO Atari, as well as in stores like EB, etc., and direct from Telegames mail-order. Go Atari mail-order was later sold off. Of course the name Go Atari was kept years afterward just becuase the new owners knew the name was much more recognizable for sales; most people would still think it was Atari.